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Proviblock kontra AAA — ciąg dalszy
SokoleOko:
Właśnie rozpoczęła się rekonkwista Providence... stay tuned o7
sneer:
wiem że całkiem sporo osób mocno oberwie rykoszetem za durnotę przywódców ale co tam
CVA i holdersom łomot sie należy i jeżeli faktycznie rusza walec na provi to trzymam kciuki za to żebyście się nie zanudzili po drodze za mocno // skoro cva zamiast wystawiac floty bedzie w tym czasie roamy gonic i czekac na wsparcie imperatorowej :) //
miłej zabawy O0
silvia:
Zalozmy iz CVA przestanie istniec... potem NC.
Z kim sie bedziecie bic?
Atlas + AAA vs. IT+Rooks? (slyszalem iz IT ma oddac tereny rooks and knights, C/D? )
Ciekawe co wtedy bedziecie mowic o "zapominaniu o swoich dawnych sojusznikach".
Yogos:
Za SCH:
--- Cytat: NightHawk VenGarden ---9UY jammer down.
May God have mercy on you CVA. We will not.
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Loc0:
Ohh hai provi :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYY1s_VEa3M&feature=player_embedded#
kilka cytatow od provi memberow po poscie-ultimatum Manfreda:
--- Cytuj --- god has forsaken us because you where stupid, reckless and c**k strong. Everyone knows God loves a winner im sure hes got his bable fish set to russian translation right now.
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--- Cytuj ---Does god have a large supercapital fleet? I dont think so
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Blazde
4S//Morsus Mihi
--- Cytuj ---As someone who's a big fan of the flavah CVA brings to EVE I can't help but feel sad about this and really hope you guys thought it through properly. Way I see it as a 'neutral observer' , for the good it will do...
An alliance on your border that provides fights but doesn't threaten your territory is a wet dream for any alliance. Wars in EVE almost exclusively happen because alliances have grudges against other, not because they want each other's territory. That's truer now than ever but it's been more-or-less the case for a long time. One of the trickiest things associated with winning a territorial war is filling the territory you've kicked your enemy out of, and that can sometimes be reason enough not to start a war in the first place. Many alliances also can't afford to start campaigns against alliances they have no grudge with when they could be doing more relevant campaigns instead. It'd be silly for example for the NC to invade CVA when we could use the time to invade a different southern alliance that we have good reason to want dead (eg. Atlas or IT).
Much the same doubtless applies to -A-. They don't want CVA territory, they had (until recently) no reason to see CVA as a threat, and they'd probably be rather sticking the boot into GoonSwarm right now. Furthermore it's beneficial to -A- to share a border with CVA. This is why they're trying to prevent the war, and it's why so few have ever tried to invade CVA. The same applies in reverse, CVA shouldn't underestimate how good they have it living next to -A-. It's simply a sound symbiotic relationship. It's not that -A- are being kind, or merciful, or farming you. At least that's never how I've seen it as a neutral outsider, and I've never heard anyone else talk about it in those terms.
To draw an analogy, back when the NC and Tri Mk1 lived in the north together both sides had a great time fighting each other while NIPed. Neither the fact that Tri sent more gangs into our territory than us into theirs, nor the fact that - certainly near the end - the NC would have been very clear favourites in any sov-war, made the arrangement one-sided. Neither of us showed mercy, it was simply that the status-quo benefited both sides - for as long as it lasted.
All that said I can totally understand the desire to shake things up, that CVA/etc.. is missing out on a part of the endgame by not having been involved in serious sov-warfare for several years and are perhaps being left behind by EVE's other coalitions. That kind of stagnation, lack of a nemesis and lack of long-term goals can bleed the best of alliances. But at the same time you should realise that what you have is something plenty of people in other alliances envy, and it's something that's good for EVE. A war of annihilation between CVA and -A- can only make EVE more bland. Either CVA get destroyed, or you prevail eventually but what you go through will inevitably turn you into a clone of every other successful alliance out there.
If I could go back a few years and persuade MC to play a different version of mercenaries, to maintain their uniqueness and not be so sucked into the politics I would try. Losing CVA's uniqueness too would be another unfortunate day for EVE. And there's another point here. People are inherently proud of uniqueness. I'm sure you have plenty of people in CVA who (whether they realise it or not) keep striving for the alliance because you aren't just-another-0.0-alliance. In RAWR we put quite a lot of effort into trying to stand apart from other alliances in terms of culture and values and politics and it's an almost impossible task. The more uniqueness you lose the harder it is to get it back. There's lots of different but perfectly valid ways to play EVE, thats the beauty of it. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking you need to play it the way the majority of 0.0 do.
If you really have commited to that path then honestly you seem to have done it at a bad time both in terms of server performance and in terms of southern politics, and the unfortunate reality is you're probably going to have to align with an existing powerblock sooner or later. But don't underestimate how far balls and blind belief can take you either, and don't mistake this for me saying you're screwed. If you succeed you'll probably have a very tough but very enjoyable time along the way and a huge grin on your faces at the end that'll make it so worth it. That's the upside. I just hope you're doing it for the right reasons.
Either way, good luck, it'll be interesting following this.
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Po pokazie w D-G Aralis powinien wywalic barana w sciane i dume do smieci. Nie macie liczb (nasz blob zawsze moze byc wiekszy niz wasz), skilla ... i czasu na skompletowanie powyzszych. Koles, wypowiadajacy sie negatywnie o eve i ccp aktualnie robi provi holderom smrod (sam ponoc chce konczyc granie - czyzby chcial wykonczyc cale provi przy tej okazji?) i siedzi nadal na stanowisku x0 provi bloba :uglystupid2:
Moar pr0n incoming asap.
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