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[Flame] Chaos na południu - 25.07
CoeathalVega:
lawl! +10 internets
SokoleOko:
--- Cytat: Doom w Sierpień 30, 2010, 20:41:16 ---bandę dresów i statsiarzy (tak na marginesie to pbn również dostał taka łatke niedawno)
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Od kiedy uważasz mnie za dresa? O.o
Stary Pierdola:
--- Cytat: Soulscream w Sierpień 30, 2010, 16:51:02 ---lol internetowy honor
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--- Cytat: Blazde ---One very good reason for not going full surrender monkey besides 'honour' is it gives you some of the most valuable things you can have in the alliance game:
1) A goal - reconquer stations and get your stuff back
2) That your whole alliance can agree on - because they all have stuff trapped in the same place
3) Motivation to succeed at it - because you'll get your stuff back when you do
The other good reason is that surrendering gives you a reputation for being pussy, and if you intend to carry on playing the game that can be important in getting future allies. Noone wants to be allied to pussies that might surrender without warning. In at least one case when an otherwise reasonably strong app to RAWR was being considered the fact that the corp's previous alliance had surrended came up as a pretty strong reason to reject them, for having a (leadership) culture that lacked stamina and was too materially minded.
I can totally see how you can reach such a low point that neither of these things seem to matter. Especially if your members and leadership haven't pre-prepared themselves mentally to face the low point. I think it was Orree said in the CAOD thread: you can't know what you would do until you get to that situation Atlas were in. I disagree, you simply make the decision in advance and don't change it when you get there. It's pretty liberating too because you'll never have to anognise over whether to surrender, and when a 3000 man alliance agonizes over something not much else gets done.
So I can't help thinking some Atlas corps will look back later and regret this, as a missed opportunity to reforge corp spirit, and have a lot of fun trying to pull off an immense comeback. I'd venture those members that do have that do-or-die, no retreat no surrender attitude will be quietly walking out the back door over the next few weeks.
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Alto Saotomeo:
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lmao, Bunak buahahahaha xD
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Wszyscy juz zapomnieli ze XIX placili PL za to zeby pomoglo im w ofensywie bo samo nie dawalo rady. Atlas od czasu powrotu z polnocy to juz nie byl ten sam atlas co kiedys wiec mozna bylo sie tego spodziewac. To ze zeszmacil sie dealem z ruskimi to jedno ale checi do walki byly. Wiadomo ze jak nie ma lidera ktory wezmie ally za morde i poprowadzi je porzadnie to ludzie przechodza w stan stagnacji, zaczynaja sie rozkerbirzac, tracic zmysl pvp i cale ally powoli samo zabija sie od srodka. Wasze szczescie ze trafiliscie w dobry moment. Tyle.
Reszta sobie jakos poszla. Szkoda, osobiscie liczylem na duuuuzo dobrego pvp w stylu old-atlas (podbijanie insmother, geminate, tyle pamietam bo w tym bralem udzial) no ale dobre to co bylo.
@Doom: od kiedy to jestem dresem dla Ciebie ;>
Soulscream:
--- Cytat: Alto Saotomeo w Sierpień 31, 2010, 00:00:59 ---//*** OFFTOP
lmao, Bunak buahahahaha xD
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Wszyscy juz zapomnieli ze XIX placili PL za to zeby pomoglo im w ofensywie bo samo nie dawalo rady. Atlas od czasu powrotu z polnocy to juz nie byl ten sam atlas co kiedys wiec mozna bylo sie tego spodziewac. To ze zeszmacil sie dealem z ruskimi to jedno ale checi do walki byly. Wiadomo ze jak nie ma lidera ktory wezmie ally za morde i poprowadzi je porzadnie to ludzie przechodza w stan stagnacji, zaczynaja sie rozkerbirzac, tracic zmysl pvp i cale ally powoli samo zabija sie od srodka. Wasze szczescie ze trafiliscie w dobry moment. Tyle.
Reszta sobie jakos poszla. Szkoda, osobiscie liczylem na duuuuzo dobrego pvp w stylu old-atlas (podbijanie insmother, geminate, tyle pamietam bo w tym bralem udzial) no ale dobre to co bylo.
@Doom: od kiedy to jestem dresem dla Ciebie ;>
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