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Esoteria - SW vs SYS-K - Polityka
silvia:
isk mieliscie zwrocony?
Yogos:
Atlasi wpadli na imprezke, lokal podszedł pod 550. Mamy też chłopaków z LR w systemie.
Cóż jako że nazwa topicu nieaktualna wypadałoby wrócić do starej
Ulf Nitjsefni:
[gmod]Czytaj regulamin KSOD[/gmod]
Onitamec:
[gmod]Czytaj regulamin KSOD[/gmod]
Kombat:
Ciekawy post Liama na kugu pokazujący tą sytuacje z pkt widzenia sys-k:
--- Cytat: Liam Fremen ---As bobby and dah said let's sum it up:
SE decide to Reset IT alliance, we have some chats about it and i personally tryed to see if IT was ok with a "let's reset for fun" deal, SE asked me to speak with molle about it, IT were not intrested, SE resetted anyway and stepped out of the stainwagon coalition while doing it (in a convo with me, molle, 9119 and subzero they said clearly they had to be considered out of stainwagon and so the neutral standing was to be considered SE/IT and not stainwagon/IT).
In the same days i asked to Stainwagon to set blue our new renters in period basis, Legiunea setted them and i "think" c0ven did too, when we asked SE to do it they answered "add in the motd (the same motd where i asked to set our renters blue) we are not stainwagon anymore" meaning that they don't have to follow the coalition standings.
At that point i have removed docking rights to SE because was complete bullshit they could dock in the same stations where our renters was docked and killing them (and they actually killed some of our renters creating useless drama).
Then, after this eppisode, IT decided to attack SE in paragon soul, i stated clearly that i was going to do anything i could (diplomatically) for stopping the invasion, and since these guys are pretty hot-minded i told them i was not intrested in escalating a war with IT for defending someone that can't stick to coalition standings and that i told them in 1000 ways that resetting IT for "fun fights" when they did not agree was a very bad idea, in the next day i spent togheter with bobby, manfred, nync a shitload of time trying to fix the IT/SE issue and at the end it was fixed in a diplomatical way.
The reason i told them i was not going to defend them is pretty easy: They are hot-minded, if you say to someone who is hot-minded that he has the support for doing wtf he want he will feel in right to do it, my objective was to fix the situation between IT and SE in a diplomatic way, not to give them the right to feel "safe" to start a war with IT, was a mistake? maybe, i could have used better words? maybe, i try to be always sincere and in diplomacy this is often a problem
I understand the fact that SE need to make their propaganda, but sincerely, you could have found something better, then the fact that your is a preventive attack.. the fact that we had cta's for attacking your space, then again the fact we should be cooperating with brick.
You say that you want to fight and have fun, if you need all this bullshits for selling your decision to your members and to c0ven this is completely stupid.
Remember that 1 day before you resetted us, in a formal meeting (in front of many of the other leaders of the south) i offered you all to put back the "bad things" or "misunderstanding" that could have happened between us in the past and let's start from scratch on our cooperation. This is the behavior of someone who want to invade your space? giving 1/3 of the period basis hi-ends to c0ven is something that should count as planning to invade you? come on... stop with the bullshits, if you want to fight, do it, no need to find excuses.
(sorry for my english, is the best i can do )
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